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Re: Intriguing Items of Discovery   posted: 10-Jul-02 18:49   »» 
Now I understand how to make them, but what are they good for? I don't understand how you use them. I've been experimenting and thinking but I can't find anything.

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Re: Intriguing Items of Discovery   posted: 10-Jul-02 22:26   »» 
There were some examples stated in the topic I posted earlier. Maybe the most common/useful one is making a pre-stressed part, or a tension spring (I don't know if there's an official term for this, but those are two terms I've heard).

Let me explain. Make three masses, mass a, b, and c, and connect a to b, and b to c, using zero length springs. Then connect a to c using a longer length.The result is a tense spring that has mass b in the middle. These are used in many models; look in the zoo and I think you'll see. Also, using this same method, you can make tense springs that have as many masses on them as you want. Furthermore, you can mix different lengths in with the zero-lengths to make the "middle masses" settle in different places.

You can also use it to make polygons. Make a ring of masses connected by zero-length springs, and then connect every other mass on the ring using the same length. The result will be a polygon. Doing this with 8 masses is how Kevino made his 8 point motor that we just recently saw. You can also use the measured length as diagonals, instead of connecting every other mass.

And then of course there is the strange square that this topic is all about. The four sides of the square are zero-length.

Hope this helps.

SirDougie

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Re: Intriguing Items of Discovery   posted: 10-Jul-02 23:09   »» 
That helps ALOT. Now i understand how "attack on love" was made, I can't remember the modeler. I actually made a triangle earlier after you told me how to make zero-length springs, but I couldn't find any use for it. Thanks.

SirDougie

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Re: Intriguing Items of Discovery   posted: 11-Jul-02 00:09   »» 
I've made my first model using zero_length springs and I owe thanks to you, Lectvay. I also owe thanks to Kevino because I use his method of combining masses. Here's the link.

http://sodaplay.com/constructor/player.htm?&getmodel=SirDougie+zero_walker

I'm going to improve on it later, the engine is off balance but I'm going to fix it.

Lectvay

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Re: Intriguing Items of Discovery   posted: 11-Jul-02 00:18   »» 
I believe the creator of "attack on love" is our beloved oooo.

sodaboy9000000

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Re: Intriguing Items of Discovery   posted: 12-Jul-02 06:45   »» 
I didn't know you had a name for it.

Unknowingly,
Nick

Lectvay

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Re: Intriguing Items of Discovery   posted: 12-Jul-02 07:00   »» 
Well, that's just one of the names people have called it. Basically, it's just when you have zero length springs connected in a chain, and then the first and lass mass are connected by a longer spring.

LaForge

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Re: Intriguing Items of Discovery   posted: 12-Jul-02 18:10   »» 
I have a few tricks stred away for the race

me_myself_and_i

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Re: Intriguing Items of Discovery   posted: 12-Jul-02 18:40   »» 
I have a bit of a problem, when i want to make a motor or the pandora box, when i have to connect the last two zip_springs together it doesnt work, how do i connect the last two springs? Is there a different method for that?

me_myself_and_i

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Re: Intriguing Items of Discovery   posted: 12-Jul-02 18:43   »» 
look,

http://sodaplay.com/constructor/player?&getmodel=me_myself_and_i+i_cant_connect_the_last

qwertilliopasd

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Re: Intriguing Items of Discovery   posted: 12-Jul-02 19:59   »» 
Sometimes the last sprimg gets selected. Use both springs as the "top" spring (the selected one).

guest: Kevino
Re: Intriguing Items of Discovery   posted: 12-Jul-02 20:42   »» 
Hi
Why would someone want to impersonate me?
Kevino

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Re: Intriguing Items of Discovery   posted: 13-Jul-02 12:07   »» 
it doesn't work with me, but i have made my first model woth zipsprings, it looks a lot like mr biped's tripod_2_3
http://sodaplay.com/constructor/player?&getmodel=me_myself_and_i+walkie

qwertilliopasd

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Re: Intriguing Items of Discovery   posted: 15-Jul-02 03:54   »» 
I found another...Motor...
http://www.sodaplay.com/constructor/player.htm?&getmodel=MrBiped+Motor_3
All parts are linear motors.

Spydro

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Re: Intriguing Items of Discovery   posted: 15-Jul-02 12:27   »» 
Very cool; it's almost like a pulse motor.



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